Alight in flight. Fire arrows ablaze!!
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- stringnstik
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Alight in flight. Fire arrows ablaze!!
Not really traditional tackle I must admit as its construction was hardly authentic but here it is anyway
Up at my BILs over the weekend and we always get to play with something that smokes, this time around it was my shout. id read somewhere that linen rag dipped in linseed oil was the way to keep the flame alight. So it was time to prove the point.
We had a piece of 3-4mm thick 120mm long steel bar. We cut it most of the way into four. Then heated the end (sorry no forge just good old modern acetylene) and bent it into half thus giving us 2 pair of parallel legs. Grabbed an old steel blunt arrow point and bronzed it between the legs. then plied the legs out a bit to form that classic fire cage arrow point shape.
The pre prepared rags were dry and a little stiff but still perfect for winding in and out of the cage. But would it really stay alight in flight? Only one way to find out.
Loose!!
They flame up slowly and with no volatile aggressive behavior. They burn slow too, we got near on 4 shots out of the one rag. A perfect black night with no moon to spoil the fireworks and plenty of space to shoot.
The fire arrow has a wonderful hypnotic flickering flight. And yes she did not go out!! which was a good thing as it would have been darn hard to find the arrow otherwise.
Id used an extra long arrow to ensure the flame was clear of the bow and my hand and although it was a tad heavy it flew quite well and predictable.
I can only imagine a dozen or more of these things in simultaneous flight... awesome!!!
Up at my BILs over the weekend and we always get to play with something that smokes, this time around it was my shout. id read somewhere that linen rag dipped in linseed oil was the way to keep the flame alight. So it was time to prove the point.
We had a piece of 3-4mm thick 120mm long steel bar. We cut it most of the way into four. Then heated the end (sorry no forge just good old modern acetylene) and bent it into half thus giving us 2 pair of parallel legs. Grabbed an old steel blunt arrow point and bronzed it between the legs. then plied the legs out a bit to form that classic fire cage arrow point shape.
The pre prepared rags were dry and a little stiff but still perfect for winding in and out of the cage. But would it really stay alight in flight? Only one way to find out.
Loose!!
They flame up slowly and with no volatile aggressive behavior. They burn slow too, we got near on 4 shots out of the one rag. A perfect black night with no moon to spoil the fireworks and plenty of space to shoot.
The fire arrow has a wonderful hypnotic flickering flight. And yes she did not go out!! which was a good thing as it would have been darn hard to find the arrow otherwise.
Id used an extra long arrow to ensure the flame was clear of the bow and my hand and although it was a tad heavy it flew quite well and predictable.
I can only imagine a dozen or more of these things in simultaneous flight... awesome!!!
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- the head in all its glory. 5 min to make and it shows but hey it was a prototype :)
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- Cloth rapped around the cage and ready for ignition.
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- Allowing the flame to take a good hold.
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- Ready for action
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- and loose!!
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"I am the arrow..the arrow is me...together as one...I fly to thee"
"the stick maybe crooked and the string hath no form,
then married by bowyer, transforms when first drawn"
"twang....thud"
"the stick maybe crooked and the string hath no form,
then married by bowyer, transforms when first drawn"
"twang....thud"
Re: Alight in flight. Fire arrows ablaze!!
nice one mate if I did that here some numpty would be screaming blue murder
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Re: Alight in flight. Fire arrows ablaze!!
Now theres an event for Gav, Nev and Lens warbows. Dunolly night clout event shh! don't tell nev he's not good around fire
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Re: Alight in flight. Fire arrows ablaze!!
I wondered what happened to those arrows????
Fitting end i suppose!!!!
Fitting end i suppose!!!!
- stringnstik
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Re: Alight in flight. Fire arrows ablaze!!
yes Steve well spotted. For some reason that particular one was longer so it was the chosen. The others have had a somewhat better life
"I am the arrow..the arrow is me...together as one...I fly to thee"
"the stick maybe crooked and the string hath no form,
then married by bowyer, transforms when first drawn"
"twang....thud"
"the stick maybe crooked and the string hath no form,
then married by bowyer, transforms when first drawn"
"twang....thud"
Re: Alight in flight. Fire arrows ablaze!!
Nice. I am jealous.
Grahame.
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Re: Alight in flight. Fire arrows ablaze!!
oooohhhhh fire arrows....! Andy wouldn't let Nev and I shoot his longship with fire arrows at night last year, dunno why? Probably a good thing as Nev and fire don't mix....
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Re: Alight in flight. Fire arrows ablaze!!
Challenge accepted! We're having another archery weekend in July so the paddocks we shoot in should be nice and damp. I've just emailed a mate with a forge about making the fire cages, so we'll see if we can't just get a photo and some video of a dozen fire arrows in flight for youI can only imagine a dozen or more of these things in simultaneous flight... awesome!!!
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Re: Alight in flight. Fire arrows ablaze!!
Hey Mark,
That is so neat - Have you not seen Robin Hood Men In Tights - now on a serious note (ok as if!!) - hhmmm... I wonder if there will be a fire ban in October at Wisemans Ferry ??? huh huh huh
big paddock - bale of hale in the middle- Rob is a fireman and has a fire truck - wooo hooo .....
cheers
sue
That is so neat - Have you not seen Robin Hood Men In Tights - now on a serious note (ok as if!!) - hhmmm... I wonder if there will be a fire ban in October at Wisemans Ferry ??? huh huh huh
big paddock - bale of hale in the middle- Rob is a fireman and has a fire truck - wooo hooo .....
cheers
sue
Re: Alight in flight. Fire arrows ablaze!!
Fantastic !!!! But your using the wrong bow, where's your real bow for an event like that
Hmmmmmmm.............
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Re: Alight in flight. Fire arrows ablaze!!
yes Len I know , it just doesnt look proper does it. To be honest I wasnt sure it was going to work and it was all tossed into the car last minute b4 we left and you know how that warbow dont fit in the normal carrier
Sue lets just say that I was also playing with black powder.. now that was fun!
Sue lets just say that I was also playing with black powder.. now that was fun!
"I am the arrow..the arrow is me...together as one...I fly to thee"
"the stick maybe crooked and the string hath no form,
then married by bowyer, transforms when first drawn"
"twang....thud"
"the stick maybe crooked and the string hath no form,
then married by bowyer, transforms when first drawn"
"twang....thud"
Re: Alight in flight. Fire arrows ablaze!!
OK OK so what your tryin to say is you dont need a flamin arra when you've got nev maybe tossin nev out of a ballista at night ..... mmmmm now that could be fun.
....nev... ps love the arra mate a new type of night shoot at dunnolly
....nev... ps love the arra mate a new type of night shoot at dunnolly
i hunt animals because they have legs and can run away ................plants dont
Re: Alight in flight. Fire arrows ablaze!!
we tapped some glow sticks (thin one's like drinking straws) to our arrows one night, looked great in flight (not as good as the fire arrows but a bit safer)
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Re: Alight in flight. Fire arrows ablaze!!
wolfpac wrote:we tapped some glow sticks (thin one's like drinking straws) to our arrows one night, looked great in flight (not as good as the fire arrows but a bit safer)
now that is dooable..a hundred archers on the line and multicolour flames tooboot
"I am the arrow..the arrow is me...together as one...I fly to thee"
"the stick maybe crooked and the string hath no form,
then married by bowyer, transforms when first drawn"
"twang....thud"
"the stick maybe crooked and the string hath no form,
then married by bowyer, transforms when first drawn"
"twang....thud"
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Re: Alight in flight. Fire arrows ablaze!!
hey all us guys should band together and have a stump shooting tour of NSW & VIC with those in august. that way they'll be no more bushfires next summer.
oh, silly me that's right that's not the answer to the bushfire problems down there.
nice effort with those arrows by the way.
oh, silly me that's right that's not the answer to the bushfire problems down there.
nice effort with those arrows by the way.
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Re: Alight in flight. Fire arrows ablaze!!
I dont know about a hundred archers on a line stringnstik.
I'd like to see one hundred archers and there War bows in a full circle, radius 100mtrs. (In Canberra)
Sync the lighting to full blaze.
Point and aim to the centre.
The only thing missing in the centre is a target.
Do you think a hundred archers would be enough to circle Parliament house.
Cheers Wayno
I'd like to see one hundred archers and there War bows in a full circle, radius 100mtrs. (In Canberra)
Sync the lighting to full blaze.
Point and aim to the centre.
The only thing missing in the centre is a target.
Do you think a hundred archers would be enough to circle Parliament house.
Cheers Wayno
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Re: Alight in flight. Fire arrows ablaze!!
did I forget to mention the gunpowder Mr FawkesUPTHETOP wrote: Do you think a hundred archers would be enough to circle Parliament house.
Cheers Wayno
"I am the arrow..the arrow is me...together as one...I fly to thee"
"the stick maybe crooked and the string hath no form,
then married by bowyer, transforms when first drawn"
"twang....thud"
"the stick maybe crooked and the string hath no form,
then married by bowyer, transforms when first drawn"
"twang....thud"
Re: Alight in flight. Fire arrows ablaze!!
Inspired by stringnstik, a friend and I made up some fire arrows of our own.
Unfortunately the weather ruined the chance to test our fire arrows at night as planned, the best we could do was a quick test during a brief sunny period on an otherwise miserable rainy day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqIoQ7hKpNs
However it does bode well for the next evening we get up at at the farm
Unfortunately the weather ruined the chance to test our fire arrows at night as planned, the best we could do was a quick test during a brief sunny period on an otherwise miserable rainy day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqIoQ7hKpNs
However it does bode well for the next evening we get up at at the farm
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Re: Alight in flight. Fire arrows ablaze!!
I should point out that we were only drawing to 24 inches using 25-30lb bows, and aiming above 45 degrees so we didn't have to go too far to fetch them otherwise they'd burn through the wooden shaft. But you'll notice that they didn't really go very far. I think the combination of low launch velocity, overall weight, air resistance of the fabric, and air resistance to the flames all combined to give crappy range. That loud WHOOSH! sounds awesome but it's all energy being wasted I suppose.
Next time we do it, I'll be using thicker fabric which will hold more cloth, the oil will be allowed to dry so it will hopefully burn better, and we'll crank them to full draw.
Next time we do it, I'll be using thicker fabric which will hold more cloth, the oil will be allowed to dry so it will hopefully burn better, and we'll crank them to full draw.
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Re: Alight in flight. Fire arrows ablaze!!
Man real shame about the weather.
you mentioned you would try dry cloth next time? I think this is very important.It must be allowed to dry.. I shot mine twice that distance and not once did the flame extinguish.
The sound is awesome isnt it
Huzzahh!!
you mentioned you would try dry cloth next time? I think this is very important.It must be allowed to dry.. I shot mine twice that distance and not once did the flame extinguish.
The sound is awesome isnt it
Huzzahh!!
"I am the arrow..the arrow is me...together as one...I fly to thee"
"the stick maybe crooked and the string hath no form,
then married by bowyer, transforms when first drawn"
"twang....thud"
"the stick maybe crooked and the string hath no form,
then married by bowyer, transforms when first drawn"
"twang....thud"
Re: Alight in flight. Fire arrows ablaze!!
Yeah bummer about the weather, we set up some targets in the drizzle and were going to jus tpack up and go home but thought "nah bugger it, we're here already, let's have a go." So the fuel got drizzled on while wrapping and sizzled upon lighting due to the water and oil
Next time if we get good weather, we'll do it properly and there'll be more tan 3 of us there too!
Next time if we get good weather, we'll do it properly and there'll be more tan 3 of us there too!