hoop pine

[kerrille]

just wondering my partner uses 40# @ 28 longbow so shoots at about 36# would hoop pine found at bunnings etc be any good, its getting a bit expensive useing good arras for practice.

.....nev...

[longbowinfected]

Mate,
I am shooting 5/16 Hoop pine in a 49# longbow. I love them. I use 450 grain arrows in my 49# and my 43# longbow. They fly beautifully.
Hoop pine is very strong for its mass.
Probably a bit hard to get the arrow down to 360 grains unless you use a lightish point.
You need to burnish/compress the outside surface regularly. They are soft unless you do and mark if hit by other arrows or if shot through corflute etc.

I think they are the bees knees. The best thing is that they are native to Oz. Make sure you seal them. You might have to make up a number of blanks to get a smaller number of batched, spined alike arrows. Worth the effort in my view.

Kevin

[Mick Smith]

I've used the hoop pine from Bunnings for kid's arrows before. The hardest part is finding lengths that are reasonably straight. Many of the dowels also have grain running across at angles that would make them quite weak.

There's no reason why they wouldn't work though, if you can sort through them and pick the better ones. You will be able to spine them to ensure they will fly well, as I know you have a spining jig.

Good luck with it Nev.

Mick

[woodie]

kerrille mate they great for the light bows. I've been using them for the wife and kids bow up to 45# for years. I have also got some 5/16" or 8mm that spined up around 55# that I shoot out of my 55# selfbow. They are light weight but strong and cheep.
woodie

[Stickbow Hunter]

If you check for straight grain then all should be fine. A mate of mine used to sell Hoop Pine shafts but stopped some years ago. I think he still has a few thousand stock piled and I've been at him to put them up here on Ozbow for sale but he has been too slack. The Hoop Pine makes a nice arra but it is rather light so I don't use it as I like heavy arras.

Jeff

[kerrille]

thanks fellers yep i'll be defanatly of to bunnings on monday i'll let you know how i go

...nev...

... ps yes jeff me too, but there only for she who must be obeyed and the 2 boys who shoot mid 45# bows and like to lose and break arrs

[Stickbow Hunter]

but there only for she who must be obeyed and the 2 boys who shoot mid 45# bows and like to lose and break arrs

I understand.

Jeff

[longbowinfected]

Neville,

you can also make them out of board, cut and planed.

Jeff,
would love to buy a heap from your mate, I love them.

Kevin

[Stickbow Hunter]

Kevin,

I'll try and remember to give him another reminder about them.

Jeff

[kerrille]

thanks kev i'll try that too my youngest bloke has decided he wants me to teach him how to make arras from scratch

....nev...

[longbowinfected]

I bought a small one inch plane from John McDonald. I cut some seconds Hoop Pine skirting by bandsaw 12mm x 12mm and planed them into a hexagonal timber rod using a bench stop on my workbench then sanded them by hand. You can shoot them as soft edged hex arrows, if you want but take off the edges.

Fun on a wet day.....as long as you do not have to make dozens.

Kevin

[Stickbow Hunter]

Kevin,

I checked with my mate Grant about the shafts and he only has 23/64" so no help to ya I'm afraid.

Jeff

[Gringa Bows]

what Spine are they Jeff ...............Rod

[Stickbow Hunter]

Don't know exactly mate but from memory they would range from 50 pound to probably 70 to 75.

Jeff

[Gringa Bows]

do you think the 23-64 hoop would be heavier than 11-32 douglas fur same spine and length ..................Rod

[Stickbow Hunter]

I don't think so mate as Hoop Pine is light, similar to POC from memory.

Jeff

[Gringa Bows]

ok thanks mate..................Rod

[kerrille]

just to confirm what you guy's were saying ,i got me a stick from bunnings and after much heat straightning the final arra came in with spine of 700 and weighing in at 420grn at 29'' i shot it out of my 53# longbow and it shoots straight s a die
even got close to hitting the spot out to 30 yds and as people who know me know thats no mean feet in its self.
me thinks i'll have to make some more

.....nev....

[Stickbow Hunter]

Sounds good Nev; the arras and the straight shootin'!

Jeff

[Gringa Bows]

good one Nev,looks like you've found another hobbie Rod

[Mububban]

Is it called hoop pine all across Australia? And will it be in the dowel section of most Bunnings stores?

If they are a cheap but reliable option for kid arrows, I'll look for some on my next Bunnings trip

[longbow steve]

Hi Nev, what are you paying per dowell including your time spine-ing them? http://www.ozbow.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=9339
I think these are great value, and already spined. Steve

[GrahameA]

Good Morning Steve

Hi Nev, what are you paying per dowell including your time spine-ing them? http://www.ozbow.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=9339
I think these are great value, and already spined. Steve

I am with you. At that price and the quality they are excellent value for the everyday archer.

[kerrille]

i payed $1.10 for a 1mtr dowl as kev sed a plank is a lot cheaper again also be careful that the grain is running up and down and some can be very bent even s shaped and at our bunnings it was under the tassi oak dowels. i use a gas ring to heat my sharfts and takes only couple of minutes

....nev...ps and rod ive been making arras for a few years now but im always lookin for cheaper alternatives now that the kids and boss have taken up the sport.

[Gringa Bows]

no worries mate .....................Rod