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Glue for Wood backing

#1 Post by Brumbies Country » Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:39 pm

Just wondered what glue is best for attaching hickory backing on an otherwise wood self bow. Looseplucker told me in a private email ten or so days ago and darned if I can find the email.

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Re: Glue for Wood backing

#2 Post by longbow steve » Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:00 pm

Hi Simon, Techniglue is great for everything, Tite Bond 3, Urac. others may offer other suitable glues. Steve

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#3 Post by Brumbies Country » Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:50 pm

Thanks Steve

Really appreciate the information. Any special tips re glueing especially how long to leave before further tillering etc.

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Re: Glue for Wood backing

#4 Post by kimall » Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:37 pm

If you bake the bow at 60deg you can prob tiller the next day but without heat I leave the bow a week before bending too much.I use techniglue too.
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#5 Post by longbow steve » Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:17 am

Hi Simon, As Kimall said, if you cure with heat (techniglue) you can get started in a few hours but the longer you leave it the better. Patience is a virtue in this game.
For glues such as titebond and urac you need to read the instructions to ascertain when maximum bond strength is achieved at different temps?
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#6 Post by kimall » Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:50 pm

Yer thanks Steve I ment techniglue if you are heating it my bad.
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#7 Post by yeoman » Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:56 pm

I've found Titebond 3 to be the best in my experience.

It doesn't smell, it's non toxic so you can safely have it on your skin, washes off with water when wet, set and ready fortiller in under 48 hours......

the list goes on. I can't recommend it enough.

I've never tried techniglue though.

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Re: Glue for Wood backing

#8 Post by Brumbies Country » Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:34 pm

Thank you for the feedback. Really appreciate it. Just wondered where you get both these glues from. Wasn't able to get them from big oulets of Mitre 10 or Bunnings in Canberra. Are they more likely to be found from marine suppliers?

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#9 Post by yeoman » Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:44 pm

To get off the shelf, I've only ever found Titebond III at Carbatec. It was about 20 bucks for nearly a litre.

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#10 Post by longbow steve » Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:12 pm

Hi Simon, generally specialist wood working suppliers or as Dave said Carbatec who have an online service. I have seen Titebond and urac at Bunnings however.
Just another note, Techniglue is quite user friendly, doesnt affect me when it gets on my skin and is cleaned up with white vinegar. Dust masks must be worn whe sanding. Steve

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Re: Glue for Wood backing

#11 Post by Brumbies Country » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:34 pm

Thanks Steve and Dave

Really good that you can chase up this sort of thing on this forum. It's for the second ash bow I've built out of the rather dry plank that I made the unsuccessful first. This time I played heed to the good advice re grain considerations from Daryl and Dennis. This ones looking better with progressive tillering. I have the hickory and can back it. Convinced this morning that backing would ensure survival. Now wondering if it might be a stand alone proposition. Decisions, decisions but if I get the appropriate glue then can do it as I need to.

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Re: Glue for Wood backing

#12 Post by ichiban » Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:32 am

hit up carbatech in fyshwick for tite bond 3 they also sometimes stock bottled hide glue.
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#13 Post by Brumbies Country » Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:53 pm

Thanks Dave

That's worth knowing about the bottled hide glue. I'll have a look this afternoon.

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Re: Glue for Wood backing

#14 Post by ichiban » Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:03 pm

also they supply the titebond 3 in reuesble bottles so you can wash it and get a refill for a bit cheeper next visit.
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Re: Glue for Wood backing

#15 Post by Brumbies Country » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:32 pm

I bought the Titebond 111. When I want to put backibng on a bow I'm now ready to move. No hide glue which mightn't be altogether a bad thing. Not the most practical of glues although good in a trad sense.

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Re: Glue for Wood backing

#16 Post by Glenn » Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:07 pm

Techniglue is very very good, there is no way I would use titebond 3 if I could buy techniglue. The titebond will work as a lot of people use it successfully, resorcinol (spelling) is the best wood to wood glue as it is not effected by heat and is waterproof but can be very hard to find...Glenn...

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Re: Glue for Wood backing

#17 Post by Brumbies Country » Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:38 am

Thanks Glenn

Sounds like I'd better kep my eye out for Techniglue. Steve mentioned it as being very user friendly.

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