live tiller with your help

[outbackarcher]

hello everybody,
im going to post pictures of me tillering my spotty gum longbow, and some of you wil decide to help tiller it (hopefully). i will post up the photo of it on tillering tree, and you guys will tell me 1 whats wrong with the tiller, and 2 how to fix it.

i better give you guys some info on the bow. it is a spotty gum board 66.75" long, 40mm wide and 19mm thick. 10" handle area with one riser that is dryingas i type. i just stole some nice hardwood from the scrapbox in the man arts room and cut it up and sandwhiched a peice of spotted gum in the middle. got enough spare for 2 sets of overlays. width taper from handle to 20mm wide tips and unknown thickness. it is backed with 2 layers of silk first black then orange.

i will be shooting this bow (if it survives) at north albert due to my other longbow has a life threating injury and can be no longer used without exploding

i will post my first pics around 5:30 to 6:00 pm EST tomorrow.

hope to see many posting,
Lewis

[TomMcDonald]

Well it's 9pm.

[outbackarcher]

i will post my first pics around 5:30 to 6:00 pm EST tomorrow.

[outbackarcher]

its eight pm not nine.

[TomMcDonald]

its eight pm not nine.

[outbackarcher]

okay bow is ready, im ready, but gotta wait till mum gets home to use her camera and laptop.

lewis

[ichiban]

awsome.

[outbackarcher]

here are some pics of the bow.

[outbackarcher]

and the tiller.

[outbackarcher]

i know its a bit heavy, but before the backing and the riser it was about 30 pounds, now its like 40 pounds

lewis

[ichiban]

ok imho its bending to much on the upper limb at mid limb, remove more timber from near the handle, and the lower limb looks ok, could bend near the handle a bit more though but its fine.

love the facial expression, we have all been there hehe.

Dave

[outbackarcher]

here it with some weght removal.

[outbackarcher]

ok ill do that

[ichiban]

in addition i hold no responsability if it blows up hehe, it just looks a little angular to me u know....?

[outbackarcher]

here it is fixed up.

[outbackarcher]

thats the puppy, isobell. i think it looks a little hingy mid limb
your thoughts.

lewis

[ichiban]

from what i can see from that photo it looks to me like it could bend more out of the handle. well its not a hinge till its a hinge im impressed it hasnt chrisselld but yeah more bend uot of the handle and abit more towerds the tip the las 6 or so inces should be static

[outbackarcher]

yep i agree, more rasping.

lewis

[matt_d]

Lewis you've got some nasty hinges appearing mid limb there.. The outer 1/3 of the limbs are almost static so work on getting them bending first mate Then as Ichi said, take a few more shavings off near the handle to get it bending almost into the fades. See how you go mate.. You really need to make yourself a tiller stick so you can have a good look at what's going on. Have fun!
Matt

[outbackarcher]

mopre wood tacken off.

[outbackarcher]

ok tips, your going lose wood!

nah mate, ilove standing there anbd taking photos.

lewis

[ichiban]

yep way more bend near the handle and tips just after the fades it should start bending and bend evenly untill 6 or so inches from the tip.

[ichiban]

and yes build a tiller stick there the best thing ever

[outbackarcher]

progress,
its better but i need more work on the tips?

[Coach]

I'm no expert ,, but for a 14 year old to make something that bends like that ,,,, you impress me I did see the "near hinge" in the top limb as well
Well done
I hope she shoots well for you

[outbackarcher]

thanks coach, my arms are sore now from contiuously rasping and then taking a photo then more rasping and................................
the hinge was there for ages, the rasp didnt fix, but the spokeshave did

it is now bending nicelly but didnt get picture
but here is one that is slightly more crap.

[TomMcDonald]

Nice going Lewis.

[outbackarcher]

thanks tomalophi........... ah
tomalophican yep thats it,thanks tomalophican, i hope it doesn't break, i ve put lots of time into and would hate to see it break now.

lewis

[kimall]

Before you go any further mate stop work on the bow and make a tiller tree.You need to be able to study it at draw for a bit and to slide a tiller stick along the stave to get an idea on how is going.IMHO it needs to bend more at the fade outs and at the tips and stay away from the middle of the limb top limb.I know it is your first and it is going great but you should prob not draw it that far until both limbs are bending the same or the stronger limb will bend the softer limb out of shape all the time.I would like to see a pic of it at brace height but not drawn if pos.Of course all this would be so much easier with a tiller tree. If you need help to make one or even if you want to borrow mine drop me a PM or give me a ring.
Cheers KIM

[outbackarcher]

thanks mate, ill get right to making that tree, i have found a website that has a good tiller tree on it and that shopuld work.

lewis