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#1 Post by longbow steve » Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:06 am

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This is the latest, built by order for a Lady form Kuringai Bowmen
28lbs@28" 178fps 10gr/lb off the fingers :) .
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#4 Post by longbow steve » Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:16 am

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#5 Post by pdccr » Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:19 am

Wow thats a nice bow, nice quiver aswell.
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#6 Post by longbow steve » Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:26 am

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Thanks Pdccr, the quiver is made by Trevor Rosa of Sydney. Steve

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#7 Post by pdccr » Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:29 am

Whats it made from?
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#8 Post by longbow steve » Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:30 am

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Goat fur :) . Steve
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#9 Post by pdccr » Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:31 am

:) whats the bow made from?
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#10 Post by longbow steve » Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:35 am

Zebrano riser, Zebrano veneer and carbonised bamboo core(heat tempered). Steve

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#11 Post by stringnstik » Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:25 am

Real nice steve, another beauty. The lady will be well pleased Im sure.
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#12 Post by longbow steve » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:36 pm

Thanks Stringnstick, Yeah I hope she will like it. Steve

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#13 Post by Gringa Bows » Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:27 pm

very nice as usual Steve...............Rod

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#14 Post by White Hawk » Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:32 pm

Luv ya work Steve! That is a real nice timber in the riser, love the grain. You've got a real nice shape to the tips also. 178fps impressive mate bravo!

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#15 Post by Stickbow Hunter » Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:59 pm

Bow shape is ugly as IMO mate - I know I know old school. :D Your craftsmanship looks great. The Zebra wood nearly always looks good. I'm sure the new owner will be very pleased indeed. Thanks for showing us.

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#16 Post by longbow steve » Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:09 pm

Thanks Rod
Thanks Gav
Hi Jeff, good to hear from you :) , The ugly bow shape lets her compete with those who can draw more weight. I am feeling pretty good about how the bows are coming along(workmanship wise) Thanks for your comments. Steve

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#17 Post by Stickbow Hunter » Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:13 pm

I am feeling pretty good about how the bows are coming along(workmanship wise)
You should be mate they look very good indeed. I hope to have more time and opportunity to make a few posts again now as we got home this week after being away for most of three months.

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#18 Post by longbow steve » Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:18 pm

Thanks Jeff, it means alot :) . Glad to hear your home. Steve

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#19 Post by greybeard » Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:03 pm

Nice work Steve.

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#20 Post by TEX » Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:09 pm

Hey Steve
I took my bow to my hunting club meeting on tuesday and had some great feedback.
A few of the boys are very interested in the new shape. I was offered to swap mine for a compound bow but i could never do that. I think you have designed a winner for sure.
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#21 Post by longbow steve » Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:21 pm

Thanks Mark, I just read your email at work. Be good to catch up soon. Steve

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#22 Post by Graeme K » Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:42 pm

Hi Steve
Looks great!!!
Wonderful result from such a light bow.

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#23 Post by longbow steve » Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:58 pm

Thanks Graeme, It is a suprising little thing, carries 18gr/lb well as they were the only arrows I had on hand when I first made it. Steve

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#24 Post by Glenn » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:10 am

That's a nice looking bow Steve, you would have to be happy with those figures, that's real good performance...Glenn...

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#25 Post by longbow steve » Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:40 am

Thanks Glenn, I am happy with the performance, its not far of its big brother and it is carrying the same string weight and veneer. :) Steve

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#26 Post by ichiban » Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:06 pm

awsome results, i hate the way reflex deflexs look but love how they shoot thats why i gotta get 1 :) :) i love it awsome work.
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#27 Post by Stickbow Hunter » Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:58 pm

ichiban,

It's a deflex/reflex not a reflex/deflex mate. :D

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#28 Post by ichiban » Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:11 am

mike westvang who is the wrote the section on laminted bows in TBB 4 and is a professional bow builder refers to them as reflex / deflex, dose it matter..really..?
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#29 Post by Stickbow Hunter » Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:55 am

mike westvang who is the wrote the section on laminted bows in TBB 4 and is a professional bow builder refers to them as reflex / deflex, dose it matter..really..?

Well if Mike Westvang is refering to a bow like Steve's above then he is wrong along with the majority of bow makers and archers now days it seems. :?

DEFLEX-REFLEX: A bow design where the unbraced limbs curve toward the belly of the bow then reverse direction about mid-limb, reflexing away from the shooter. Reflexing replaces the braced limb stress lost by deflexing.

Does it really matter, IMO yes it does! I say this because mixing up the two terms only leads to confusion as they are complete opposites. These two different types of bow design look nothing like each - see attached photos.

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#30 Post by Dennis La Varenne » Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:50 pm

Ichiban,

Through the chairman of this thread, Longbow Steve . . .

I have to support Jeff on this terminology issue. We are not trying to be bloody-minded and pedantic. The terminology has been established since at least before World War II. It is premised on the side profile of the bow when unbraced. By established convention, all references are taken from that one stable reference point of any bow - the handle.

So, when we describe the side profile of any bow, we do so in terms of how the limbs are shaped relative to the handle and outward to the tips.

Thus, in a bow like Steve's, the limbe deflex (curve toward the belly of the bow) from the handle and then reflex (curve toward the back of the bow) from near the limb centre and outward to the tips.

The principle thing to understand in bow description and classification is that the handle is the landmark from which all measurements and references are taken.

This long established convention seems to have been forgotten by many bowmakers today who seem to think they are inventing new bows designs when they are only recirculating modifications of bow designs which are fundamentally those invented decades or centuries ago.

When trad bows nearly disappeared in the two decades after the invention of the compound bow in 1967, much of the established archery teminology fell out of common use. The few trad people who hung on during this period tried to keep the established terminology alive. However, with the resurgence of trad archery, many of the newer trad shooters were not enculturated with mainstream trad archery as it was practised and 'preached' before the advent of the compound era. Many of the new adherents began to misuse the old traditional terminology out of genuine ignorance or perhaps fashionable marketing.

The bottom line is that the whole reason we have terms to describe anything in any field is so anyone participating in that field understands what the other is talking about. That's the same reason that in traditional archery terms, deflex-reflex describes a specific limb configuration and not another.

I hope that this helps things a bit more.

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