So I've been a little busy...

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So I've been a little busy...

#1 Post by Al Kidner » Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:22 pm

Over the past week or so I've been a tad busy with the renovations on the house that I'm doing but I did find the time to finally sit down and put some work into this little project that I've always wanted to try :roll: ....



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#2 Post by Coach » Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:29 pm

That looks like a lot of work , why ?

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#3 Post by GrahameA » Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:46 pm

Enjoy footing the arrows.

Great fun. :D
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#4 Post by timbow » Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:52 pm

Good job Al ,that looks pretty great did you make the jig yourself and use a router.
Coach why not,thats what traditional is all about for me is making your own gear,just like you and your strings! and tattoos its all an art form.
its all good fun.
Have a look at some of Steve Wallaces work it is the best l,ve seen and he does it all by hand a real craftsman.

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#5 Post by Coach » Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:20 pm

timbow wrote:Good job Al ,that looks pretty great did you make the jig yourself and use a router.
Coach why not,thats what traditional is all about for me is making your own gear,just like you and your strings! and tattoos its all an art form.
its all good fun.
Have a look at some of Steve Wallaces work it is the best l,ve seen and he does it all by hand a real craftsman.
Yeah I know ,, but I just cant head my head round doing all that work to have it broken while out hunting .
to me it looks pretty , but arrows get broken so often , I just cant see the point . But thats just me , dont take offence , keep on building them :wink:

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#6 Post by Al Kidner » Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:24 pm

So far I routed out a dozen ash shafts to anable me to foot them with the hard wood footings I have made up. I'm yet to put the cuts into the foots but will do soon enough. Here are some more pics...

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#7 Post by UPTHETOP » Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:08 pm

Al what type of wood are you using for the foots, hard and heavy by the looks of it ?

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#8 Post by Al Kidner » Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:21 pm

Hi mate,

The footing timber is Kewlia .... but I'm not that sure of the spelling though? I'd like to use move of a darker material in the future so I'm keeping my eye out.


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#9 Post by Benny Nganabbarru » Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:45 pm

You're a real craftsman, Al!
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#10 Post by GrahameA » Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:24 am

Morning Al.

Is that a laminate trimmer or a small router you are using? I have always just used a router table but that photos of yours may have just convinced me to build a specialist tool/setup for the job - using a cheap router/laminate trimmer.
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#11 Post by Steven J » Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:55 am

Fantastic! Where did you get the arrow holding jig? Is it hard to realign the shaft 90 degrees to get an accurate footing?

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#12 Post by Al Kidner » Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:12 pm

G'day Grahame,

mate all I did was buy a small trimmer router from Bunnings for about $90.00. The jig comes with a bit and Kingsley Honan and I built up the platform to run the jig along. It takes a bit of tweaking to get the depth and centering but a few test runs sorts that out easy enough.

Here is the link to the jig Steven:

http://www.3riversarchery.com/Arrow+Bui ... oduct.html

It comes with instructions but I feel you kinda need to fill in the gaps here and there with a little CDF.

I've also found that you need to pay some detail to the shafts and how close to being fully round. If there a tad ovel it can lead to more routed out then whats needed. Again test runs sort this out.

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I'll do a full "Foot-a-long" once I've finished up the whole process.


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#13 Post by piggy » Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:50 pm

Excellent work there Al will look forward to seeing the finished product.

Cheers

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#14 Post by gundy » Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:04 pm

Mate, some great stuff. I wish I had the time!!!!!!!

Cant wait for more photos.

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#15 Post by wolfpac » Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:50 am

Great work !!
Have a look at what I'm working on .....
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#16 Post by Steven J » Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:32 am

Wolfpac,

Welcome to the site. How on earth are you going to spit the footing to accept that shaft :?:

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#17 Post by wolfpac » Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:38 pm

Thanks for the welcoming words........I've been reading the forum for a while now but have never had anything interesting to add ......

I've split a rod into five using slitting saw and a dividing head on my milling machine but it wasn't perfect (hence lack of photo) - this bit I'm still working on
I don't have a snappy catch phrase ......

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#18 Post by Steven J » Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:45 pm

Your Mad :!: :!: :!:

Just wait 'till Coach gets a hold of you :lol:

Tell me more about the milling machine concept. I am begining to think that this may be one serious tool for precision wood working. Grizzly in the USA make a milling machine specifically for timber workers. It has a longer range of travel to account for the generally larger projects. What else do you use your machine for?

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#19 Post by wolfpac » Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:21 pm

Steven

Fitter & Turner (toolmaker) by trade - at work Ive got a Bridgeport milling machine built for metal work but works well with wood. (in my spare time)
A dividing head like a lathe chuck that can be rotated accurately into any number of divisions, x5 , x6 or what ever number you need. I machined up a eight foot arrow but each foot/leg was to thin.
Five footed is a good/odd number which is hard to do bu still has detail
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#20 Post by Al Kidner » Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:51 pm

Geez Mr Wolfpac.... that is something to look at. Best of luck!


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#21 Post by wolfpac » Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:22 pm

Five footed prototype - shatered during finishing work ....... :cry:

But .... the Twin-Tri Footed prototype worked.
Three 'legs' are 5" long - Three 'legs' are 2" long - now to make one that I can shoot ..........
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#22 Post by Gringa Bows » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:05 pm

welcome to the site wolfpac top job on the footed shafts mate. :wink:

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#23 Post by Coach » Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:27 pm

Steven J wrote:Your Mad :!: :!: :!:

Just wait 'till Coach gets a hold of you :lol:



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Geez man ,, dont you like to actually shoot your arrows ??? Building those bastards would take up all your time :shock: :lol: I think you arrows builders are all bloody crazy :lol:

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#24 Post by GrahameA » Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:55 pm

Wolfpac
wolfpac wrote:Five footed prototype - shatered during finishing work ....... :cry:

But .... the Twin-Tri Footed prototype worked.
Three 'legs' are 5" long - Three 'legs' are 2" long - now to make one that I can shoot ..........
A local Arrow maker - Steve Wallace - makes lovely footed shafts with the foot made from 4 different timbers! :shock: Works of art.

Sue - how about posting some pictures of Steves's masterpieces.
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#25 Post by buzz » Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:53 pm

Madness. Sheer madness.

But carry on and don't pay any attention to me. :lol:

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#26 Post by wolfpac » Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:40 am

arn't we all just a little mad ...........

Everyone has talked about SWallace arrows - could someone post some photos or link so I/we can see some examples ?
I don't have a snappy catch phrase ......

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#27 Post by Al Kidner » Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:38 pm

And I did this today with some shafts on hand also....

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#28 Post by GrahameA » Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:01 pm

Nice spiral footings. :D
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#29 Post by piggy » Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:23 pm

Al and wolfpac some great looking shafts there can't wait to see the finished products.

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#30 Post by Jaydo » Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:56 pm

Very nice Al,

like the spiral footings, looks good with the darker footing and the light coloured shaft,

Wolfpac, Your insane :D :lol:
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