Dennis La Varenne wrote:Longbowinfected, JCM, morganp and Trad bound,
Both Jeff and I have made it perfectly clear what the purpose of Ozbow is - the preservation of all forms of archery and bowhunting practised before the advent of the compound bow.
We make no apologies for this nor will we compromise that purpose. We intend to do whatever we can to preserve those forms of archery because we believe that in so doing, we preserve our ancient and valuable heritage which informs us of who we are as archers and bowhunters and where we came from.
We are not interested in throwing that out in favour of latterday reinterpretations of the term 'traditional'.
If any of you find no value in helping preserve those traditions, then why visit this forum. If the modern forms of supermarket archery which have no interest in preserving our archery and bowhunting heritage or even understand what it is all about are all you are interested in, there are plenty of other forums where you can wallow.
Ozbow has NEVER pretended to be a forum where all forms of archery are welcome. It is, and has always been, dedicated to preserving only the pre-compound archery and bowhunting forms and its vocabulary.
All of this nonsense about definitions arose only because of 'rules of shoot'. What is a traditional arrow? That is an absurdly easy question to answer from the Ozbow perspective.
It is any arrow of a kind in use before the advent of the compound bow. Is that so very difficult to understand?
That definition is a very inclusive one and, I suspect, encompasses just about all the arrows you blokes use presently other than carbon shafted arrows. So, what is your problem?Ozbow has absolutely no interest in how the various archery shooting organizations define their trad archery, so we do not understand why you are arguing that point on this forum.
They have nothing to do with Ozbow and nor has Ozbow had any input into these definitions. It seems to us that you are attributing those rules to Ozbow. Why??
Do please re-read what Jeff and I have posted above. None of you seems to have read those posts and/or understood what we have said. You seem to be arguing at a tangent to the original question posed.
If anybody asks on Ozbow what the definition of traditional archery or equipment is, it is ALWAYS and ONLY what we have defined in the second paragraph above. The oft-repeated re-questioning of what is ‘traditional’ on this forum is both redundant and irrelevant. You have your answer already.
If you join Ozbow, by default, you already have the meaning of the word TRADITIONAL ARCHERY.
As a number of your comments are attributed to myself and others who were interested in this discussion, I feel after much consideration that I should respond.
I have highlight in colour some of you remarks. Firstly I was the person who posed the original question, At no stage have I attempted to put forward a position that is at odds to that I believe is valued on this forum. So I feel in the main people have addressed my question.
As to your assertion that some of us are not wanting to support traditional archery and therefore why visit this forum. I think the reverse has been shown in this discussion, and that is why I asked the question on this Traditional Archery Forum.
Wallow in forums please show the wallowing, this discussion had been going along fine until your outburst, maybe you might like to reread the responses through another less senstive lense because no one has been questioning Ozbow.
I have enjoyed and appreciated the response from those who have participated, obviously something has hit a roar nerve. If by asking and responding to a geniune question about traditional archery has caused this response I am sadly disappointed. Thank you to those who have supported this discussed but it sounds like it has not be appreciated.
Cheers
TonyJ