Sourceing Glue

[frogman]

Im on my third attempt at a laminated long bow and im having trouble with glue (24hr araldite) i know not the right stuff,so were would i find technie glue or smooth on or something else that is suitable.

[longbow steve]

Carbatec will mail order Techni glue. Steve

[stringnstik]

yep just picked some up yesterday in fact.

[Stickbow Hunter]

Binghams or Three Rivers to name a couple to get Smooth-On from.

What problems are you having with the 24hr Araldite? It will work but it is not so good once the ambient temperature gets up to summer temps as it can start to soften under high temps (60 degrees from memory but not 100% on that).

Jeff

[Roadie]

The Glue that I use is called RESORCINOL, I use it on furniture and repairs, have used it in building a small dingy, OK its a marine base glue. and so far it hasn't let me down. As for making bows i can't give you an honest answer. It's not a cheap product, but I use it all the time when working with wood. Cheers Roadie.

[frogman]

Thanks for the replies,stickbow the araldite seems to let go,it is quite old stock so i will replace with something more suitable.

[Stickbow Hunter]

stickbow the araldite seems to let go,it is quite old stock so i will replace with something more suitable.

Yeah it isn't an epoxy that I would use but be aware that all epoxies do have a shelf life and I for one won't use it if it is over twelve motnhs old.

Jeff

[longbow steve]

The Glue that I use is called RESORCINOL, I use it on furniture and repairs, have used it in building a small dingy, OK its a marine base glue. and so far it hasn't let me down. As for making bows i can't give you an honest answer. It's not a cheap product, but I use it all the time when working with wood. Cheers Roadie.

Hi Grant, alot of old bows were made with Resorcinol. I dont know how good it is bonding glass to wood but it is definatley suitable for wood to wood bonding in bows. Steve

[Roadie]

Thanks Steve, You have put my mind at ease now I can sleep more easily. It sure is a good glue to use. Cheers Roadie

[frogman]

Well i rang Carbatec today and everything was great till they told me the freight cost $55 from Brisbane to Herveybay i almost fell off my chair.So im looking else were now.

[Gringa Bows]

have you got a local marine supplies place in your area some of them carry it too,

[longbow steve]

Hi Frogman, ask them if they can post it to you rather than courier. Otherwise try John Clarke from Ausbow industries as he stocks it and will definately post it to you for less than $55 dollars from South Australia . Steve

[Hamish]

$55 for postage! You could have that parcel airmailed to you from half way round the world for less!
Hamish.

[CraigMBeckett]

Frogman,
Look around for boat building suppliers or fibreglass specialists they generally stock Techniglue CA, I get mine for such a supplier.

Roadie,
Where do you get your RESORCINOL from I understood it is not available in Oz?

Craig.

[Moen]

I use West System for wooden and glassbows. Works great every time:)

-Moen

[ppofandt]

$55 for postage! You could have that parcel airmailed to you from half way round the world for less!

Techniglue is classed as a corrosive so extra precautions are needed (ie - cost) when sending it by post.

Buy it locally or find someone that will send it by normal parcel post.

[kimall]

G'day Frogman, I would use the Techniglue rather than the araldite. Resorcinol is the best glue for glueing timber to timber but it wont glue fibreglass to timber. I prefer technique over the smooth-on as thechniglue is water wash up. Clarkie will sell it to you. I have used techniglue for years now and no problems with it at all....Glenn Newell on Kims computer.....

[Gringa Bows]

G'day Glenn,how have you been......Smoothe on is water wash up too

[gilnockie]

Here is a link to the data sheet for Techniglue:

http://www.atlcomposites.com.au/files/e ... ue_r60.pdf

Note the HDT (Heat Distortion or deflection Temperature) of the various hardeners and whether or not they have been 'cooked' after the initial cure.

I don't use Techniglue but I use another product made by ATL composites. Here is a link to their web site:

http://www.atlcomposites.com.au/atl_composites/

You should be able to purchase Techniglue from any retail outlet which sells glass fabric, and the various adhesives such as epoxy or polyester resins. A good source of supply is firms which cater to boat builders.

Here is a link to the data sheet for West System 105:

http://www.westsystem.com/ss/typical-ph ... roperties/

Compare the HDT of West System 105 with Techniglue. You can convert the temperatures from Farenheit to Celsius here:

http://www.onlineconversion.com/temperature.htm